Interview with Guero 1, Jim, Ricky, Bernard, Cora, Roy, Mario, Kayla and Evan
JM: Tell us about the pre-sentencing process: Guero 1: well i signed a plea for 1 year in prison and
then a few interviews were done by the d.a's
office in regards to why i chose prison and
things about my childhood and past problems with
the law. the courts refused to let me out on
good faith that i would conme for sentencing as
i was a flight risk. Jim: What pre-sentencing? They held me for 6.5 months
on a bogus indictment only to have the State
dismiss the indictment a week before trial.
Ricky: Takes at least a year if taking charges to trial. Most of the time
inmates take pleas to hurry process or because their Public
Defender is not involved enough in their well-being. The CO's
make your time there frustrating because they like to pick
fights and it makes you want to go to prison just to get out of
the jail. Bernard: In pre-sentencing you're shackled together with
multiple inmates, you wait your turn, the judge
asks if you have anything to say, you tell them
what you have to say, you wait for everyone to
finish. You go back to the holding cell
underground and then you are transported back to
Pima County, where you will then go back to your
cell block. Cora: After I was cited I waited 16 months to be
sentenced during which I heard very little from
the court. I was given a sentencing date that
kept getting postponed for various 'clerical'
reasons. The process was anxiety-ridden and
depressing. You are just left in limbo until you
finally get a real court date to go to. Roy: Well this last time I was coming from the east
coast. I had a warrant that showed up after 15
years ago, I was coming back to Phoenix to clear
it up, so my enlistment back in the Regular Army
would not be hindered. There was no pre
sentencing for this arrest, while at a store I
opened a can of beer, the police pulled up, and
made me pour it out, ran my Id found I had a
warrant, I was just getting off the Greyhound,
and stopped for a beer. He took me to the
Madison Jail, and I went into a holding sell
with about 17 other guys. We were booked in and
that process takes at least 3-4 hours, and if
its is close to lunch or dinner, they give you a
brown bag with one halfpint of juice and a dried
up peanut butter sandwich with no jelly, thick
and pasty. Then after processin you with finger
prints, and paper signatures and stripping
checking for weapons, drugs, pariphenilia, they
take you up to your affiliated housing cells. If
you did a major crime you go to maximum lock up,
and if minor, your usually housed with about 45 -
65 other inmates in units. Many people, get out
sourced to different facilities, depending on
space available, your level of crime, you go to
Durango, Buckeye, or some of the other related
facilities. They moved me to the Durango
facilites, where the bunks reminded me of life
on an aircraft carrier,no head space, nasty old
mildewed bunks, no Air conditioner, and usually
with 3 men to 2 men to a cell. Break fast
consist of peanut butter sandwich, as well as
lunch also, dinner may be a tray of something
like shit on a shingle, some vegetables, if ther
is any meat portions, its usually 2ounces or
less. They are very limited on nutritional
values. Mario: It was far more productive,and faster then other
county jails I have been in. It was more relaxed
feel to it. Even though I was in jail it did not
quite feel like it was. I did not feel threaten
in anyway shape or form. It was by all reasoning
a pleasent experience. Kayla: It took forever. The pre-sentencing part of the
jail is much worse than the Mission. It's worse
because you're locked in a small room with people
whose lives are just now being ruined. They're
also coming off of various drugs and are under
immense amounts of stress concerning their court
cases. Because it takes so long to get sentenced
while you're incarcerated, you forget the details
of what happened. since you don't have the
resources to research other cases properly or
write down and sort out your thoughts, you are
automatically screwed and don't have any real
chance of trying to defend yourself in court
whether or not you are guilty Evan: i was incarcerated on the same day that i commited
the crime so i was in jail for pre-sentencing.
first i was visited by my public defender then i
was given a video visit by the pre trial services.
i was interviewed by her for about 1 hour. she
asked about drug use and history, prior arrests,
and personal information. it gave a relatively in
depth picture of my criminal history.
JM: Did you have police stop by your house for questioning? If not please give us details on how you came to be arrested. Guero 1: no because i spent the hole process in jail, but
they pulled me out a few times of my cell and
they all got upset because i refused to talk. Jim: They came by w/o my asking. Ricky: Yes. I was not living there at the time. I had sheriff's go to the
house and draw their guns on my 7 months pregnant girlfriend
and question her. They searched the house also. When they
continued to return to the house and harrass my girlfriend I
decided to turn myself in. Bernard: I did not have police come to my house. How I
became arrested was that I was pulled over and
then arrested. It was a routine traffic stop that
went all wrong, next thing I know I was running
from the police and was then tackled to the
ground, beat up..and then arrested. Cora: No, I was pulled over for a DUI and arrested on
the spot. I spent the night in jail and was
released the following morning with a 'tentative'
court date. After the court date was postponed an
officer from the court stopped by my house about a
year later to serve me with papers giving me a new
court date. Roy: No, not at that particular time, he was making a
routine drive down 16th St. and Indian school in
Phoneix and happened to see me standing at the
phone booth guzzling a Ice cold miller beer. He
made me poor the contents out, and then radioed
in my identification and came back with a 15
year old warrant. I was handcuffed and taken to
Madison St. jail at around 2 or 3 on a beautiful
summer day, all my belongings still at the
Greyhound bus station. Thank God I had them
securley put away. They give you your orange
jump suit, which some inmates prize highly,
there are no irons in jail, but most inmates
will put there jumpsuits under there steel bed,
under the mattress to flatten it overnite while
sleeping on it, creating creases in which you
would think they had a presser. Mario: No. I was picked up on the streets. Was riding
my bicycle on the wrong side of the road and was
stopped. The officers did a check on my name and
found out that I had a warrent for my arrest.
The officers were nice and very polite again had
a pleasent experience. Kayla: I was arrested at the scene of the crime. I did
not have a permanent residence at the time that
they could investigate. I was running from the
police thinking I was being followed by some
random person at night. Because I wasn't aware it
was police while I was running I was not charged
with resisting arrest. However, I was witnessed at
the scene of the crime and was pointed out to a
cop on foot by that witness and was chased by that
cop. Evan: no the first time i was arrested i was arrested by
the tucson police department on the same day as my
crime.i was at a friends house that the police
surrounded and i was caught. I was interviewed by
detectives at time of arrest. The second time i
was locked up i was at a hotel that was raided by
the u.s. marshals. they took me in custody at that
time.
JM: What was court like? Please give as many details as you recall. Guero 1: i was shackled chain gang style to five other
inmates, and it was quick, and easy i said i was
sorry felt remorse for my crime and i was
sentenced and then you wait for everyone else to
be done and then you go back to jail and wait. Jim: Like a circus. Just shoved aside to let
the "people" have thier way. Ricky: Drawn out process. Constantly call you for court hearings for
nonsense. Sometimes you get a good public defender and
sometimes you don't. They can make the situation much
worse for you if you don't take action to try to change it or let
them know you're unhappy about their work. Bernard: The very first court is actually inside Pima
County jail to decide whether you stay there or
not. From that one, I do know there is a room
people can come to at a certain time and see your
hearing on a tv screen. Then the judge goes over
your past record, and decides if you can be
released on "OR" or bond is set. Depending on what
the judge decides you may be released by the next
morning or you will stay housed at Pima County
jail or until your bond is posted or until your
next court date. Cora: I had several court dates which I showed up for
would sign in with the court secretary and
eventually I would be dismissed for various
reasons (lawyer not showing up, evidence not in
order, no blood alcohol results etc) I eventually
had a jury trial which I was excused from due to
there being no chance that I would be found
innocent therefore my presence didn't make a
difference according to my public defender. After
the jury had made their decision I had a
sentencing date set and went before the judge. Roy: Well after sitting in Durango for about a week
and 4 days,waiting to see the States Prosecutor,
Every day the Correctional Officer on duty will
call of a bunch of names, this normally happens
after the last meal the night prior to going to
court. They will call of names of who is going
to see the Prosecutor, and again at about 5:am
they will call the names again. I knew they were
going to release me from a 15 year old warrant
for something silly like disturbing the peace.
They transport you early around 5:30 am to the
Madison Jail again, if your from another
facility, then you sit in a holding cell for 3
to 4 hours until your name is called. You
usually sit in a large holding cell with
everyone from all the other facilities waiting
to see the Magisrate, to have your fate
pronounced. That cell has one silver steel
toilet and the cell is rectangular and about 50
to 60 square feet, paint chipping coming off the
walls, all types of graffiti on cell walls, with
other bodily contents (buggers). They normally
bring you a roll of toilet paper for those who
can't hold it. The toilet paper is a comoditity
in jail, as well as a cookie or a piece of
candy.These things become highly profitable, and
can usually get you a cigarett or some other
substance whether its heroin, cocaine, crack
form, or some alcohol, thats been made from
fermented oranges, bananas usually called
hooch. Then your name is called, your wearing
shackles on your feet and your hands are cuffed
in front, if your a dangerous risk, then your
handcuffed from behind. About 20 inmates are
escorted to a court room where they sit up away
from the jurors and witnesses and family
members. They rattle of the court rules and
everyone is told to be quiet, the judge normally
arives at 9:am, everyone stands when he enters,
and told to sit back down. The judge rattles of
his court rules, and then they start calling
cases, slowly. My case was called and the
prosecutor stood up and said, "Mr. Horsey we had
an old warrant, that was 15 years old, you have
no other charges, we are sorry you had to be
here like this. I spoke then telling them I
took a Greyhound from North Carolina(where my
prior service recruiters office was), caught a
greyhound immediately here to AZ to get the
warrant squashed(dropped), and ended up here.
The States Attorney then appologized for having
to stay in lockup for 2 weeks in a hot, dirty,
nasty cell, with my younger roomate who was a
hispanic guy who was in a gang and shot
somebody, and was now worried about his
girlfriend and whether he would get prison
time. I usually tried to console him and say he
would be just fine. But after court your put
back in your cell, and if your released, you
will sit in there maybe another hour and half
until they call about 5 release inmates, and
take you to a room, give you your clothes which
are in a big plastic bag, sign for your property
like wallet, or cash and cell cell phones. They
let you change, and turn in all your orang jump
suits for your civilian clothers and sneakers
which they make you take the strings out for
security purposes, some people have been known
to hang themselves with their shoe strings, so
they take them out and put them in your property.
You wait until another 30 minutes and they call
your name, the big computer progamed door opens
and you walk out of the dressing cell into a
hallway and into the release lobby which family
member or girlfriends are waiting to pick you
up, and you feel so good cause there is a bright
sunlight, fresh air, other people, and you
anticipate real food, and a cigarette if you
smoke. Mario: I was never brought before a judge in Pima
County. I was in front of other judges over the
years. Each time was different each time was
exciting in it's own way. I was scared and
nervous for each time but knew that I was there
because I did not follow the rules of the law. Kayla: Court was disappointing. I was not given the
opportunity to voice my point of view or to try to
defend myself. The judge and other officials of
the court did not care about the people on trial.
I was presumed guilty until proven innocent
instead of innocent until proven guilty. The
public defendants are overloaded with work and
don't even try to defend anyone. It's obvious they
get bonuses for plea bargains Evan: I was transported from PCSJ to the holding cells
at Superior Court early in the morning. After
waiting 3 hrs., I was brought into the courtroom.
I was shackled with 4 other inmates. Our cases
were reviewed individually by the presiding judge.
I felt like I was treated fairly by the judge who
heard my case.
JM: What were your original charges? What did you end up being convicted of? Ricky: Charged with: Aggravated Robbery with Firearm, Aggravated
Assault, Aggravated Assault (Domestic Violence), Disorderly
Conduct. Convicted of: Attempted Aggravated Assault
(Domestic Violence) and Disorderly Conduct. Bernard: Possession of a dangerous drug with intent to
distribute.
Cora: I was convicted of super extreme DUI with a prior Roy: My original charge was a fifteen year old
warrant for disturbing the peace, some silly
minor misdemeanor that I received a written
ticket for 15 years prior when I lived here in
98 and 99. Before I went into the Regular Army I
lived with my ex-wife, and we were probably
arguing and making a lot of noise. We split up,
I went back into the Army after getting out of
the Marines in 1989, I helped my father relocate
from Connecticut to Arizona, he retired as a
Hartford Connecticut Police Officer, after 23
years and wanted to relocate. We got here in
1993, the year they finally passed Martin Luther
Kings birthday after many years of citizens here
not wanting to recognize it as a holiday, if
finally passed the summer we got here to Sunny
Phoenix Arizona. Mario: My original charges was a sexuall offense in
1990. Have gone back on other charges probation
vilotation, failure to register. Kayla: My original charges were theft, burglary, theft by
control, possession of paraphernalia, and a few
others I can't remember. I ended up being
convicted of theft by control in 2009 and 3rd
degree burglary (theft of a credit card) in 2011. Evan: Armed robbery, kidnapping, burglary, and aggravated
assault with a deadly weapon - classified as non-
violent.
I was convicted of aggravated assault with a deadly
weapon, a Class 2 felony.