JM: Did you find it difficult to get along with other inmates? Please give examples to explain why you did or didn't. Rachel: i got along with alot of them but alot of them
wanted to beat me because i dont know why. Jason: I was the only white man with over 150 Blackmen
in each holding cell for ours. No way to use a
bathroom.. Having to stand for hours, no place
to sit. Being threatened constantly for hours.
Singled out everywhere they put me. I am no push
over ( 6'1" 235 pounds ) and can hold my own but
you cant stop 10-20 or more from killing
you..Also after we had been strip searched for
the 4 or 5th time I was placed in another
holding cell with another group of abot 150 and
2 minutes after some one lights a Joint in the
holding cell... Kat: No they were all cool. JM Advice: If you have never been to jail, the social change will probably be
something of a social shock. Many of the inmates in Cook County
Jail have been there before and are used to the experience. There is
also a fair amount of violence at the jail, so tread lightly and be
careful who you interact with. Brian: I didn't think it was too hard. DavidP: It's a culture shock. I was by far a minority there. I'm white, and
it's 99% black or Hispanic there. I'm not a racist person at all,
but they make you feel completely unwelcome and out of place.
There's a lot of gang affiliation in there, with both black and
Hispanic gangs. Almost every single one has been there multiple
times. Many spent more time in there than not. For me, it was a
horrific experience. I didn't expect to go to jail in the first place.
Going through a place like this - it's in the middle of the South
side of Chicago. It's a rough area of town to begin with, and then
in the jail, with everyone in there - the jail doesn't make you feel
welcome at all. After a couple of days, in my area, there were
about 60 men, and maybe four or five that I could talk to, or
would talk to me, and make me feel a little bit better. It took a
couple of days for me to talk to them, and for them to talk to
me. That's how it was all during the three months. I only really
talked to four or five guys. There's a lot of hatred and violence.
A lot of them didn't like me just for the color of my skin, or
whatever. keke: no not at all just cuz u are in jail doesnt mean
all people are going to be mean and bad you see
people from your niehborhood Teabag: "Almighty Don't like nobody".... Almighty Simon
City Royals.... Nuff said ??? Crystal: No, but the guards and administrators purposely
isolated me as much as possible to keep me from
talking with the inmates and telling them their
rights. I was put on protective custody and 24/7
lockdown a lot to shut me up and due to bogus
claims that they had to protect me from other
inmates. There is a lot of mental illness and
inmates who are good at conning others, lying,
and manipulating. It is best to not give many
personal details. Be a good listener rather than
talker for your safety. Edward: At first everything was very differant.i was
sent to div 5 were 2 men shared a cell but due
to limited space I was with 3 including
myself.every one at div 5 was somewhat laid back
but i only was there for about 2 weeks were i
was sent to div 1.at div 1 it was extreamly
differant.Im not in a gang and never was, so
when you first walk in its a dorm setting with
48 beds all in a big dorm.people walk up to you
right from the get go and ask what gang your in
and if your not gang related they just walk
away.at first its hard but if your going to be
their for awhile it just gets better with the
other inmates isaac: there was a couple of gangbangers who pick on
the big white guys but mind them none all lot of
talk Lucky: With rival gang members it's always tense. But the
deck I was on was cool, I got along with everyone. Laydie: my time spent with others was only a few hours,
but it was good behavior, I would not like to
serve any time there ,still I can say if you do
your part to stay out of trouble in there then
the guards will do the rest to keep you safe
from harm. Kathy: No Lisa: no Apache: no Janet: ON A COUPLE OF OCCASIONS YES.IT ALL DEPENDS.YOU
ARE LOCKED UP WITH ALL DIFFERENT WALKS OF
LIFO,AND MANY DIFFERENT ATTITUDES.BUT I MEAN YOU
CANT REALLY BLAME SOME PEOPLE,YOU MAY BE THERE
FOR A MINOR TRAFFIS OFFENCE,WHEN THE GIRL NEXT
TO YOU IS CHARGED WITH A MURDER.
YOUR LOOKING AT PROBATION AND SHES FACEING LIFE. Ron: no Ryan: No. I am affiliated with a street gang and have been for some years
so that helped alot. It is always easier for us than non-members
because we look out for one another. Laetia: not at all. Dennis: No Laura: Yes. I am very opinionated. I was an 18 year old
white girl who didn't let anybody talk her down or
steal her cookies! I think everyone had arguments,
young or old. I am an agnostic, and many people in
jail "find God" and get religious and it was a
constant struggle. I never and will not speak out
against religion but when in group therapy one day
while asked I acknowledges that I believe people
in jail finding God is great and all, but very
fake, wow what a shit-storm that brewed. Fernando: no,it wasnt difficult to get along,because i just
kept to myself,tried to stay bizy and read,or
just meditate and exercise,a lot of praying is
also what i used to calm me Gail: No.I get along with practically everyone.I grew up
in Juvenile Detention centers and IYC-which is DOC
for juveniles.I am usually the one who tries and
helps everyone from the beginning. George: No,because I'm the type that can get along with
people.I had a friend in there that did magic
tricks with cards,so that took up a lot of my
time.I seen a bunch of fights in there. Rich: IT WAS'NT A PROBLEM CAUSE I WAS IN A DIVISION WITH A
LOT OF MY BROTHERS, SINCE IT WAS MY FIRST TIME THEY
EXPLAINED & GUIDED ME FROM THE DO'S & DONT'S OF
BEING LOCKED DOWN. Mark: yes i found it difficult because most of the other
inmates where gang members and i was never a gang
member. also the other inmates try and steal
anything from you. food, cash if u have any while in
the holding cells or even your clean cloths. John: I don't have a problem with that its just the
inmates that think that they super bad because of
a charge or since they think they been on a
certain tier for a while they think they runn the
tier those are the inmates that I don't get along
with Juan: yes i got along in my division tit was low
security people who worked in the kitchen
etc...being white ifiiteed in....the gangs are a
problem but i was considered a neutron...non
affiliated Erik: NO I AM A PEOPLE PERSON, I EVEN MADE A FEW
CONTACTS INSIDE THAT BECAME FRIENDS ON THE
STREET, I SHOWED RESPECT FOR GUARDS AND INMATES,
AND FOLLOWED PROTOCALL'S, NO PROBLEMS Scott: No, it's like if you mind your own business then
your cool. There are situations of negativity
but you have to maintain control of yourself
everyone is under pressure so always take that
into account. Jason: the only difficulty i experienced with other
inmates was gang related. for an entire week or
more i was threated to get beat for breaking the
line. I didn't know what that meant. as it turns
out there is a pecking order to going to eat or
clothing exchange. gd's followed by vice lord
followed buy neutron. and some other gang. had it
not been for my size and refusal to be bullied I
may have been injured. others weren't so lucky as
it was common to return from lunch to have your
food stolen or other valubles. Shawn: yes the inmates need to be grouped together by age
gladiator school is for the yongibs theres no need
to hsve a grown ass man in gladiator school just
waiting a a fight to break out Dominic: I got along well with other inmates. I was somewhat older than
many of them and I was often sought out for advice or just
conversation about the charges they were facing.
James: i didn't have any trouble. i am 6'6' tall. 255
lbs. i kept to myself. i didn't know anyone and no
one knew me. it was a quite day that i went in a
monday. so people was really drunk or roudy Carl: no not at all i knew a lot of people there so it was
ok the worst part is someone telling me its time to
got to bed or that i couldn't get out my bed for hrs Josh: The other inmates were mostly gang bangers and I'm
not. Not until I got to the drug unit was it
semi-relaxed. But even their we were told to write
each other tickets. Dangerous Jose: No. I got along with inmates very well. There
isn't much to do in jail, so my main choice of
passing time consisted of conversing with other
inmates and telling stories to have something to do.
JM: What types of things did you have to do to avoid problems or fights with other inmates? Rachel: look down. tell the officers Jason: PRAY, PRAY PRAY and look down, no eye contact,
offer no information about ANYTHING...I was
dressed in nice cloths and shoes which made me
stand out like a sore thumb..There are way too
many placed together in one cell and the stress
of being called MF, and standing shoulder to
shoulder for hours adds more tention. Kat: Just stick to yourself. Be careful of body
language sending off bad signals. JM Advice: Inmates report that there are strong allegiances within various
gangs and some of them may offer you protection in exchange
for commissary items or meals. The end story is just be careful
who you interact with and avoid offending others. Some inmates
may have seats they claim at a dining table, for example. If
people begin to put up a fight, just let it go.
Being a county jail, however, you will tend to have less
confrontation with other inmates than you would likely have in
prison - most of these inmates will be out within a few months
and they have a strong incentive to stay out of trouble. Keep to
yourself until you feel comfortable with another inmate and you
probably won't have any problems. Brian: Just keep to yourself. DavidP: There were stupid things like not taking a guy's seat at a table I
mean, they had their seats. They're not afraid to start screaming.
Anything like that, almost on a daily basis, like five out of the
seven day week, there was a fight between inmates. It was either
fistfights, or, they make weapons out of things. They take a
fluorescent lamp they put a chair on a bed so they can get up to
the ceilings and reach the lamp. They break it apart, and take
the metal out of it, and use the metal to make knives. There
were those kinds of fights at least once a week, so you stay
away from those kinds of guys that initiate those fights. You can
tell who is angrier than others you see who is the least of the
worst. You stay around the least violent people. Most of them
are more comfortable in there than they are on the streets. Most
of them know each other from the streets and jail. It's kind of
weird, I mean, they all know each other, and their comfort zone
is there and around each other, being in jail. You can pick out
the ones that are less apt to fight. One of the first guys I picked
out he was actually one of the first guys to come to me, and I
could see that he was half decent. He was the leader of the
black gang that was in there. He said that I either needed to be
with him or this other Hispanic guy that was in there. He said
that one [inmate] was going to cause trouble, and that he had to
watch out for me. He protected my back, and in turn, I had to
give him something. I'd give him meals or parts of meals every
day. You have to give something up. Buy something from the
commissary, which you get on a weekly basis. You have those
inmate accounts, and once a week, you can buy something, and
you give him something, and he protects you. So first off, you
determine who's not as angry or violent as others, or who seems
to be nice to you, in a way it's all relative. It wouldn't hurt to
pick someone out who has a gang who could protect you. Just
figure out who could protect you. keke: keep to yourself if you dont know them the ones
running they mouths are weak Teabag: Hahaha your joking right !! Crystal: Don't argue if you can avoid it. Edward: to avoid fights or problems i just was myself.if
your not in a gang when you go in dont get into
one when your their.i never did and it saved me
from fighting with other inmates.i just kept to
myself and asked nothing from anyone.some
inmates are laid back and they will help you out
with soap,towels and other things that you didnt
get but others expected to be paid back in full
and that can cause a problem.just be yourself
and dont think you can fight the world. isaac: stay to urself and dont act like a tough guy
there are some decent people in there who just
made mistakes Lucky: I don't know what it is but weak or scared people
stick out. You can make it fine in jail as long as
you don't talk sh* to anyone, don't steal, never
call a man a bitch! Be yourself... Laydie: I kept a good attitude and upbeat mood, I got
along when need be and kept to myself when need
be.you can say I agreed with the format of
things on a yes and no basis. Kathy: Not disagree with their temperment. Lisa: I just mind my own business Apache: mind my own buisness Janet: BASICALLY KEEP TO YOUR SELF AND LIMIT THE PEOPLE
YOU TALK TO. Ron: Stand up for myself and take no crap Ryan: Nothing to avoid them. There is an unwritten code of conduct for all
inmates and for the most part as long as those are followed there
isnt any problems. Laetia: keep to myself and pray often Laura: Act like you don't have an opinion. Fernando: have to let a lot of things go like people
walking in front you,tripping you,reaching over
in food line,have to just try to stay calm and
dont let where you at discourage you,use
prayer,meditation and reading,find certain people
to talk to,those who fit your profile,and act
friendly to all you meet Gail: At first I just stayed in my cell.Other inmates
were the ones with the tendencies to look for
fights and the easiest way to avoid one is to
smile
and just keep moving! :) 1988 is another story.I
was involved with a gang and there were also many
predatory females trying to make their moves on me
as bisexuality and lesbianism was prevalent.:(
YUK!!!!!! George: I had to stay to myself and few others.I also read
the bible and went to church.I play cards and
spoke with older men that were in there for many
years.They gave me lots of wisdom.My main thing
was prayer to GOD,he made me to get through all of
this. Rich: MAKE SURE YOU KEEP URSELF CLEAN AS IN UR HYGENE. IF
UR NOT IN A MOB U HAVE NO PROTECTION FROM THOSE WHO
WANT WHAT U HAVE.MIND UR OWN BUSINESS AND PLEASE IF
U GOT A MOUTH LIKE A BITCH,CHECK THAT FUCKIN GOSSIP
SHIT AT THE DOOR. YOU COULD GET UR HEAD SPLIT! Mark: to avoid any problems or fights with other inmates i
had to basically not over engage in any conversation
even if it doesn't include arguing. do a good job
cleaning if you have duties in the room and just
don't make friends because other inmates you choose
not to be friends with will become your enemy. John: the things that you have to do is stay two your
self in do your time don't gamble in jail because
its gonna end up n a fight because you might win
a lot of stuff in the might want to pay you or
they feel like your cheating in a fight is gonna
happen Juan: well you had to watch your commisary...i was
lucky enough to be arrested with 200 on my
person that went to commissary...but you didnt
punk down..people traed lot of stuff...you found
uses for evry thing...u didnt throw anything
away...you could find drugs in this
division...the kitchen workers smuggled peanut
butters,cookies etc for trades on commissary...i
was lucky enough to get atappering down dosing
of my methadone...cook county gives you
methadone if your on a program and they
verified....but it took 4 days before i got
dosed...that third day/night no sleep... Erik: WELL IN COOK COUNTY, I FOLLOWED, THE RULES THAT
EXITED, SEEING THAT THERE WERE 2 DIFFERENT GANGS
THAT WERE IN THE BUNK AREA THAT I WAS IN, AND
CLEANLINESS IS THE ONLY THING THAT THEY REQUIRE
OUSTIDE OF RESPECT OF THEM WHEN THEY HAVE GROUP
PRAYER OR WHEN IN THE CHOW LINE Scott: Mind your business, mind your business, mind your
business, stay to yourself, show everyone the
same respect they show you, avoid negativity at
all cost, live and let live. The people that look
for trouble in this place will find it just to
let that be you. most inmates are trying to get
the hell out of there. Jason: as mention before i had to abided by the cell
rules. i had to eat in the gang approved order. i
had to mind my own business when i may have known
who was stolen or rather who did the stealing.the
gangs tended to be up at diffErent times making
noise being loud and rully. the only thing that
you could do was keep to yourself. Shawn: you have to keep to your self and pick a side who
you are goin to aid and assist a certain group
plus the over crowdin is just as insane buddy up
with someone in the jail and hope when a fight
breaks out aroundtha t you are going to be willing
to fight Dominic: The main thing I had to do to avoid fights or trouble with other
inmates was to know my place as a neutron, which is an inmate with
no gang affilliation. Never snitch on anyone. Never gamble with
gang members. And never be seen talking to a jail officer alone. James: the gangs was present. you had to eat in acertain
order. sit in a certain place. little things but
inconveinant. you had to keep your body clean if
not that was an ass whipping, i agreed with that
one who wants to smell your stanking azz when soap
and water are free. no reasson to be stank Carl: i was Friends with a lot of people in there but to
keep peace i kept to myself and pitched in on
commissary for the new people coming into the div
don't come in thinking you hard and can beat up any
body cause that will get you beat up or worse killed Josh: Be nice. Stay out of the way. Don't talk to much.
Stay in the middle of the luch line when getting
trays if your a neutron. Watch to say nothing
racial because thats always an ass beating.
Respect your celly or life would be hell. Remember
to keep on flushing the toilet when #2. Jose: There wasn't a big problem with avoiding fights
since I know how to act in a jail environment.
There are some basic rules to follow: Do not
gamble. Do not threaten people or make fun of/
ridicule other people. Avoid gang confrontations
by not being in a gang and doing gang related
activities. Also, don't drop the soap!! Just kidding.
JM: Were you able to choose an inmate as your cellmate if you knew one? How often would your cellmate(s) change? Rachel: nope Jason: No Kat: NO JM Advice: No. Brian: I didn't know anybody there but I really doubt it. DavidP: No, and actually, I was in a weird area where I have a health
problem. I have very, very high blood pressure, and therefore I
went into an area that was used for people that needed medical
care. It wasn't like a hospital, but it was a little more directed in
that area. Consequently, I was in an area where there were 60
beds in one room. It wasn't a cell with one cellie, this was an
open room, like a cafeteria at a college. There were 40 beds -
four rows of 10 I think, and so it was a situation like that - a
little different from what you've heard from others.
Going back to that 24 hour period when I was being
checked in, the nurse noticed I had high blood pressure, and I
was eligible to go in. She recommended that I go into this other
area. I wasn't among the general population, although it had the
same kind of inmates, same kind of people. It wasn't a less
intense situation. It was the same type of people that had some
sort of health problem that required a 24 hour doctor nearby. It
was more than what you get in the other area, though, I guess. keke: hell no Teabag: No isaac: no Laydie: no. Kathy: No Lisa: no Apache: sure Janet: TO TALK TO YES.AND IF YOUR HOUSED AT COOK COUNTY
AFTER YOU HAVE BEEN THER A WHILE YOU CAN REQUEST
THEY SHARE A CELL WITH YOU. Ron: no Ryan: I am not sure themeaning of the question. If u mean to be a cell
mate with no not most the time. Laetia: no Laura: No. Fernando: not able to choose cellmate,cellmates usually
change about 15-30 days,the county does the
chosing for you,have to stay calm and cool with
who ever your cell mate winds up being Gail: I did not.But funny you ask because a girl who was
convicted of murder in my neighborhood happened to
be my first cell mate.In the end I had a single
cell. While incarcerated in 1988 WAY BETTER
STORIES .I had to fend for my life...... At the age
of 17 George: I one cell mate the whole time I was there.Me and
him became good friends.We meet each others
family.He was smart but was short tempered.I still
chat with him today. Rich: FOR THE MOST PART U HAVE NO CHOICE IN UR CELLMATE,
BUT IF THEY KNOW UR MOB RELATED THEY TRY TO PUT U
WITH UR OWN T0 KEEP DOWN THE FRICTION. Mark: no you have no control over who your inmates or
cellmates are. they are computer generated i believe
from the time you're processed. cell mates would
change depending on if someone is released and there
is a bed available or if room is not over crowded.
can be 2 a day or weeks with no change John: I didn't get to choose a cellmate one was already
there in I would have swithed cell mates like
evey two to three months sometimes longer than
that or shorter depends on your cell mate case Juan: ..i wasnt in a cell but a huge 100 person pod
witha bunch of bunkbeds...people came and went
daily..everyday about 25 people went to court
and ant night maybe 3 were let go. and the rest
stayed Erik: NO, BUT WHEN IN KANE COUNTY IF THERE WERE ANY
PROBLEMS WITH A CELL MATE, I COULD REQUEST TO BE
MOVED, BUT I HAD NO PROBLEMS, WE BECAME GOOD
FRIENDS, AND WHEN WE GOT OUT WE WENT AND PARTIED
TOGETHER Scott: Sometimes but usually the staff assigned
cellmates but every now and then you could have
someone you were cool with as a cellmate, but the
timing for something like this to happen hade to
be perfect. Jason: no i wasn't able to choose my own inmate in the
beginning. however when i was moved to another
dorm none of the bed assignment meant anything.
the gangs bunked together. or ethnic groups. black
with blacks. WHITES WITH WHITE, SO FOR AND SO ON.
WHEN SOMEONE MOVED AND THEY HAD A BOTTOM BUNK THE
GANGS TOOK OVER AND CLAIMED THEM. THE BEDS ROTATED
OFTEN Shawn: this isnt the hywatt you dont get to pick your
cell mates cell mate each time was different what
you get is what you get their is no lets see like Dominic: I was never able to choose a cellmate. When I was detained at Cook
County jail, there was three inmates to a cell designed to hold two
inmates. Every time an inmate came on the new- a terminology
used for a new inmate, the inmate was placed in a cell that
previously only held two inmate. But very often, the next day the
new inmate was moved to another cell that had inmates who
belonged to his gang. But if you were a neutron, you had no say so
as to who your cellmates would be James: the common theme in jail is that you have no
choice in anything. you can choose to go to
protective custody.you can choose to bond out
those are your only choice if you even have them Carl: no we're not allowed to pick our cell mates and we
had people coming and going all the time it was
always 3 to a cell and many people had to sleep on a
thin mat on the floor Josh: No,never. Maybe if you knew the gaurd or been
there a long time. A gaurd knew me and put me in
the anti-gang wing because Div. is such a bad
place to be. Jose: You are not allowed to choose a cellmate. The only
way you will be in a cell with someone you know is
if you got convicted with that person. When I was
inside I had the same cellmate the whole time.