Interview with Tim, Bob, Peter, Iris, Pat, Elsie, Kathleen, George and Amber
JM: Did you find it difficult to get along with other inmates? Please give examples to explain why you did or didn't. Tim: Not at all. Pretty much every one else minded
their own business. They all were either hung over
like I was or asleep or just plain hungry and
bored. The jail could have been a little more air
conditioned, but that's just my opinion. Bob: I personaly didnt but some do. there are always
going to be a couple people you dont get along
with if your stay is extended enough. especially
at george baily where your in barrack style
accomidations of 45+ people as opposed to
sharing a cell with one person. Peter: no i didnt find it difficult to get along with
other inmates. i got along well with all. just kept
my cool and didnt cause any problems with
others.that was it. Iris: I stayed to myself but some of the older women
that had been to jail multiple times gave insight
and just advice that this is the place that I
would never want to return to. Pat: I found it very difficult to get along with other
inmates because I didnt feel like I was like most
of the people in there. I did make a mistake but I
didn't like talking about it like most of them
did. They would be proud of what they did while I
was ashamed. I kept to myself and that worked out
the best for me. Elsie: I did because of the huge social and economic
differences and absolute shock of the whole
ordeal. False accusation/conviction. Furthermore,
everyone seemed to be a drug addict and I had
never had contact with street life or drugs in my
life though I came from poverty. I am college-
educated and was in my early forties when
arrested. It was another world and the deprivation
was alarming. Kathleen: it wasnt too difficult. most women there are
pretty cool. all trying to pass they time and
realizing you're one of 60 different personalities
around non stop. most women also dont want to make
things more difficult for themselves and everyone
basically respects each other and accepts things
for what they are. occasionally someone gets out
of control or is just completly out there but i
tried to ignore most bullshit and focus elsewhere. George: No I didn't find it hard to get along with other
inmates. It was easy for me because I followed
rules in there and kept to myself for the most part. Amber: IT WAS VERY DIFFICULT TO GET ALONG WITH OTHERS
BECAUSE THERE WERE NOT ENOUGH SEATS. SOME PEOPLE
SMELLED AND WERE TOO LOUD. AND IT WAS IRRITATING
TO HAVE TO WAIT ON OTHERS WHEN YOU WERE THROUGH
JM: What types of things did you have to do to avoid problems or fights with other inmates? Tim: I didn't have to do anything. The inmates were
really more interested in their own crap or just
counting the seconds march on. No one ever messed
with any body else while I was there and I didn't
hear any other stories. Bob: You must figure out what "car" you roll with and
find out what the specific rules are and abide
by them otherwise you will get "full flighted"
or "checked" translation: Ass Kicked by 5 to 20
people until you requre serious medical
attention possibly airlift. This is no Joke.
There are established convoluted set of rules
learn them if you dont know ask! "cars" are the
different groups in the california penal system
its known as politics whatever any deputy or
correctional officer tells you they are an
unavoidable and entrenched part of the system.
if your white your roll with the Woods, if your
black - the Brothers, if your mexican - the
Paisas, if your hispanic but from here (ie.
homeboys and cholos) - the Southsiders, if your
asian,islander,middle eastern - the Others.
Every Car has a Rep also called a Keyholder they
are the elected (by force or democracy) leader
of the car. Once you touch down (get to your
Module) ask someone from your Car who the rep
is. Introduce yourself and get the rules. If its
your first time in jail let them know! I have
never seen someone get beat up or hassled for
being new. And above all remember your not on
the outside in their there exists a certain
level of respect. Give it to everyone and you
shouldnt have problems. Say thank you , please,
and excuse me. Peter: like i said. just kept my cool. didnt cause any
problems with other inmates. got along with
everyone. sometimes i was just stay by myself and
not talk to anyone. if there was altercations i
wouldnt get involved. that was about it. just
kept my cool and get along with anoyone who got
involved with me. Iris: I didn't have any incidents with any of the other
women I would see fights break out between other
women for mainly stealing or talking behind one
another's back, but I just think that all the
drama is because there is nothing else going on
so they start drama with one another. Pat: I would read all day long so that I wouldnt have to
socialize with the other inmates. Some people look
for the weaker guy in the module to pick on so it is
important to act like someone that you are not so
you dont seem like you are the weakest person in
there. Elsie: I didn't have problems, per se because I wasn't
aggressive or problematic. One often had to give
up food in order to avoid problems. Or, if in line
to accomplish something, allow someone from the
back of the line to push ahead of you. Or look the
other way when illegal behavior was ongoing. Or
alert the inmates when the police were
approaching. Or, simply say nothing when
confronted and threatened. Kathleen: not getting involved in others problems and
keeping myself out of whatever drama not
concerning me. not attracting dramam of my own
remaining respectful and keeping quiet. not
involving myself or allowing myself to get
involved. neutral or off in my own world
somewhere. also trying to remain positive. keep a
smile on my face. good sense of humor and a lot of
patients and showing some compassion George: I mostly just kept to myself, didn't really look
or talk to anyone unless it was necessary.I just
hung out with my own race and followed their daily
routine and didn't stir up any trouble.
Unfortunately there were a few other people in
there I knew from outside of jail, it was kind of
comforting. Amber: BASICALLY I WOULD JUST MIND MY OWN BUSINESS, I
WOULD CLAIM AND STAY IN 1 SPOT FOR THE WHOLE
DAY AND TRY AND GET AS CLOSE TO THE BARS AS
POSSIBLE SO I WOULDN'T HAVE TO SMELL ANYONE.
BEING BY THE BARS ALSO PUT ME CLOSER TO THE TV
AND MADE IT ALMOST POSSIBLE TO HEAR AND SEE.
JM: Were you able to choose an inmate as your cellmate if you knew one? How often would your cellmate(s) change? Tim: Not that I know of. I didn't know you could choose
your own inmate, and even if I could, I wouldn't
have one to pick. I don't have any friends in the
county lock-up nor any relatives. Bob: Hell No. But things get rearranged in the mods
or houses by the inmates reps Peter: no they just placed me in a cell. it was a two man
cell with just me inside. on the third day someone
came. there was only one cellmate change through
the time i was there. Iris: I was in a large room bunked. With about 40 women
then there's a bathroom area and on the other
side there's about another 40 women so there's no
privacy at all. Pat: They tell you what cell to go into when you first
arrive in a module. You are almost always celled
up with someone who is the same color as you due
to race fights. you can also change cells if you
are not getting along with someone in your cell
but you will need to talk to the representative
of your race. Cellmates change either weekly or
monthly depending or what security level you are.
the higher the level the less they change because
they are in there for longer periods of time. Elsie: At times. If someone was very mentally ill, you
simply had to get away from them because of the
danger, or their odor, or their theft. Much of the
ability to change cellmates was dependent on the
police on duty. Not all of the areas of the
facility had cells but rather were dorms with 35
women in them. There was some movement but again,
it depended upon who was working and that
officer's personality. Everything was iffy and
precarious...24/7. Kathleen: we were in dorm. 2 sides to each dorm seperated
with a bathroom. 60 women on each side. people
came and went as their court dates passed and
people were released. no one got to chose the
housing they were places into. there wasalso
different housing for they level of supervision
and severity of crime commited George: I did not have a choice in a cell mate, I pretty
much just had to deal with the person I was dealt.
Fortunately he was not to bad, but did snore
pretty loud all the time. Amber: THE HOUSING DEPUTY ASSIGNS WHERE EVERYONE IS TO
BE CELLED. MY CELL MATES CHANGED OFTEN BECAUSE I
HAVE A PERSONALITY DISORDER AND I DONT ALWAYS
GET ALONG WITH OTHER PEOPLE