Interview with Tim, Bob, Peter, Iris, Pat, Elsie, Kathleen, George and Amber
JM: Tell us about the pre-sentencing process: Tim: There really was no pre-sentencing. I was kept
overnight in the drunk tank and released on my own
recognizance the next morning. I was scheduled to
come back to court the next month. Bob: I was held without bail and attended all my
court appearences while in custody. Peter: i just had to go to court. wait for the judge to
call my name. i first did some paperwork with the
court to see the judge. waited for the judge to cal
my nazme for about an hour and half. the judge
finally called my name and gave me the decision. Iris: I was interview by detectives and I've that I was
over they transported me to the facility were I
was put in a hold tank with like 10 other women.
We were waiting to be classified and placed into
a bed. Worse experience ever they treat you like
scum no one is perfect but if I give respect I
expect the same no matter the situation and that
wasn't the case there. Pat: Before sentencing you will have a number of court
dates that you will have to go to while still in
custody. Your first court date will be to plea
guilty or not guilty, almost everyone pleas not
guilty for the time being even if you are planning
on changing it to guilty later on. A few weeks
later you will come back to court and they will
offer you a "deal" which you can take or turn
down. If you take it your next court date will be
your sentencing date. If you do not take it you
will go back to court a month later and they will
offer you another "deal". Depending on the
severity or the crime they will either give you a
better deal each time you turn it down or decide
that they would rather take you to trial if they
are sure they will get the jury to convict you
guilty. Elsie: It was a nightmare primarily because my private
attorney was utterly corrupt, thoroughly clueless
and although I was offered a few months by the DA
via my public defender prior to hiring this
private attorney, he managed to get me three
years! I never had a single moment to speak in
court courtesy of both the judge who wouldn't have
anyone dispute her word, my attorney literally
told me to "Shut the fuck up!" Bingo. Kathleen: initial court date to be given options and bail
changes. give your plea and re assess situation
somewhat. or clarification for upcoming court
dates. after initial
court date was given 30 more days to think over
the new information i'd be given. about a week
before my last court date i spoke with a
investigator to help decide my sentencing and
possibalities for probation and or programs after
release George: I was in there for about two weeks before
processing, it was just really boring,I guess what
you could expect for jail time.It was actually
pretty clean in there.I was very nervous because I
didn't know what the outcome would be, pretty much
the waiting just killed me, and being away from my
family. Amber: WHEN I FIRST GOT TO THE JAIL I WAS TAKEN
DIRECTLY TO A NURSE WHO ASKED ME QUESTIONS ABOUT
MY MEDICAL HISTORY, IN THAT SAME ROOM YOU ARE
PHOTOGRAPHED. FROM THERE I WAS TAKEN TO A CELL
WHERE I COULD USE A PHONE. THIS PHONE IS TO MAKE
ARRANGEMENTS FOR BAIL. YOU STAY IN HERE FOR
ABOUT A HALF HOUR THEN THE DEPUTY ASKED ME IF I
WAS BAILING OUT. BECAUSE I WASN'T I WAS THEN
TAKEN TO A DRESS OUT ROOM WHERE I WAS GIVEN JAIL
CLOTHES AND TAKEN TO ANOTHER HOLDING CELL THAT
PROVIDED FREE LOCAL PHONES. I STAYED IN THIS
CELL FOR QUITE A LONG TIME. DURING THAT TIME I
WAS BOOKED, FINGERPRINTED, AND GIVEN A CHEST
XRAY. AFTER ABOUT 18HRS A BUS CAME AND PICKED ME
UP AND TRANSFERRED ME TO A WOMENS FACILITY
WHERE I WAS HOUSED.
JM: Did you have police stop by your house for questioning? If not please give us details on how you came to be arrested. Tim: The police never needed to come by house for
questioning because I was not involved in an
investigation. I had blown a .08 in a breathalyzer
and was arrested. Bob: No. Peter: no the police didnt stop by my house for
questioning. i was arrested the same day of the
incident. someone called the police. the police
came,handcuffed me, questioned me and then drove me
to the jail. they paperworked me, and stayed at the
jail for about 3 days. that was it. Iris: I had an under cover unit go to my house and
bring me in. They had went to my job and previous
addresses prior but then had caught up with me at
my home and at that point they had arrested me
and brought me to a parking lot for questioning. Pat: No. I was riding a motorcycle and I stole
something from someone and ran away. When I got
down the street I looked at what I had taken and I
felt bad because there were keys for a car and a
phone in the bad I had taken so I got off my bike
and walked back to the person. I got as close as
could and threw the persons belongings as close to
them as I could. I was caught when I got back to
my motorcycle and started riding away. I confessed
when I was stopped. Elsie: Oh, no because the nature of my case wasn't
anything of the sort. I was on probation after
being wrongfully convicted of something and
serving outrageous time. I was shopping and became
severely ill and ran outside with my basket to the
garden area of the store where store security
apprehended me. They would have released me had I
not been on probation but as such I absolutely had
to be a scheming criminal and was taken into
custody. Kathleen: no police came to question me. my case started a
couple years ago and over the years i'd repeatedly
get new warrents for failure to appeaper. my last
time in jail i had this warrent for close to a
year and just wanted to turn myself in. i was in
drug court and i wanted to terminate. get
sentenced rather than return to drug court George: I was arrested on a dui, then bailed out, as part
of a plea deal I had to turn myself in. It was a
hard decision but I knew I had to do the right
thing in order to get things straightened out and
not make my situation a lot worse. Amber: I WAS IN A RELATIONSHIP WITH A RECOVERING ADDICT
WHO WAS TRAINING TO BE A DRUG COUNSELOR THROUGH
HIS RECOVERY PROGRAM. HE RELAPSED AND WAS TOLD
TO PUT HIMSELF IN HIS OWN PROGRAM OR SUFFER
CONSEQUENSES IF HE DIDN'T. HE TOLD ME HE WAS
GOING TO DO THAT BUT SOMETHING TOLD ME HE
DIDN'T. I WENT TO HIS HOUSE WHERE I FOUND HIM.
AS A RESULT WE ARGUED AND I PULLED HIS SHIRT.
POLICE SHOWED UP AND I WAS ARRESTED SINCE HE HAD
THE TORN SHIRT.
JM: What was court like? Please give as many details as you recall. Tim: I showed up for court and waited almost all day
for my case to be called. It basically took a
whole ten minutes for everything to happen once I
was in front of the judge. I just had to plead and
wait for the judges verdict of what form my
punishment would take. Bob: If your fortunate enough to be housed in the
same facility where your are to make your court
appearence the process is fairly simple. You get
called about 2 hours before and go wait in a
holding cell by the courtrooms with other
inmates going to court when you are done you
generally wait another couple hours before
returning to your mod.Going to court from George
Bailey is an all day tedious affair. You are
woken just before breakfast around 3:30am and
told to eat quickly then your are taken to the
holding cells where you wait...then are strip
searched...then wait...get on a bus while a
chain is wrapped around your waist and your
handcuffed to that chain. Go to downtown..unload
bus...wait in grimy holding cell...load bus...go
to courthouse where you are to make
appearence..wait..see judge from behind the
enclosed inmate box...return to holding
cell..wait...load bus...wait...go
downtown...wait in holding cell...load bus go
back to GBDF...wait in holding cell...return to
your Mod. I would leave the mod at 4am and would
not return until around 8pm it's a real real
real drag. Peter: court was long and boring. had to come at a certain
time. did some paperwork with the clerks. after the
paperwork, i to wait in the courtroom with other
people and waited for the judge. the judge finally
called me up after an hour and half. i explained my
incident and that was it. Iris: Court its self wad fine they had everyone that
was in my case in attendance. But the process to
get there was horrible they wake you up at the
crack of dawn so that you can sit in a cement
cage until your case is called but then even
after that you have to wait hours til the bus
comes back to transfer you back to the jail. Pat: court was very intimidating because one person can
control your future and depending on what kind of
mood they are in you can get more or less time on
your sentence. All attorneys that are provided by
the state mean to do a good job but they just have
too many cases to deal with to provide everyone
with a a great attorney. It is always better to
have a paid attorney because they seem to have
more pull in the courtroom and can negotiate you a
better deal in the long run. The more people you
have supporting you in the courtroom the better.
The judge will see who is there for each prisoner
and the more the better. If you can get letters
from different people about the prisoner saying he
is a good person but made a mistake it will go a
long way with the defense. Elsie: Court is never less than surreal for many reasons.
One, as a non-attorney, one is puzzled with the
nomenclature and comings and goings. Then the DA's
office opens its mouth and you are immediately a
raping, pillaging, serial killing, child molester
who is likely a terrorist as well. If you have a
record, you might as well throw in the towel. Kathleen: court for my was routine. the pyublic defender in
charge of my case is also in charge of all the
other prop 36 and drug court cases. first court
date they were ready to reaease mee back into drug
court whjich i declined. he wanted to give me a
week to think things over which i declined. then
he have me another sentencing date 30 days later.
on that day he told me i'd be getting released,
the terms for my probation/ restitution and
whatever else i'd have to comply with. basically
going over what the judge would say but with more
details and with the ability for questions and/or
concerns George: I had to do video court, I was very nervous to
find out what my sentencing would be, the process
was pretty fast. I was sad to not be in the actual
curt room to see my family who came to support me,
the judge was nice enough to turn her screen
towards my girlfriend and mother who came to see
my sentencing. Amber: I WAS TAKEN BY BUS AT ABOUT 5A.M. I WAITED IN AN
OVERCROWDED HOLDING TANK WITH 7 OTHER GIRLS. THE
TANK WAS ABOUT 10X12 IT HAD 1` BENCH THAT SAT 3.
WE STAY THERE FOR 9HRS.I SPOKE TO A LAWYER WHO
TOLD ME WHAT WAS BEING OFFERED TO ME BEFORE
BEING HANDCUFFED AND LED INTO COURT.
JM: What were your original charges? What did you end up being convicted of? Peter: battery. but then it was dropped. Iris: Charged for insurance fraud but ended up
receiving withholding information in a criminal
frauds case Pat: robbery and grand theft. ended up with only grand
theft Elsie: Originally, in 2002/2003, Theft of An Elder and
some other bogus charge related to being in a
position of a caregiver. I had rejected my
landlord's brother's advances and my landlord's
for that matter. I told one brother that the other
was incompetent and was entering my home and
behaving inappropriately. I was also suffering
with advanced Thyroid disease unbeknownst to me
and was starting to behave strangely because my
body was simply shutting down. The one aggressive
brother forcibly moved me and my possessions out
of my apartment and a few days later called the
police. Kathleen: originally i was charged with posession. i was
given prop36 and kicked out then drug court which
i terminated on my own. i guess i was cnovicted of
posession George: I was charged with a second d.u.i., the conviction
was the same. Amber: PC243(e)(1)BATTERY W/SPOUSE AND PC594(a)(2)(a)
VANDALISM. THE PC243 STUCK